Podcast Transcript
Jo (00:00.181)
You're listening to the Girls Get Off podcast, an R18 podcast on all things female pleasure. Think girl talk, but real girl talk, where we chat all things masty, self-loving, sex, orgasms and more. Nothing is off limits, which means you get all the secrets even our guests BFFs don't know. We're on a mission to make talking about getting off as fun as actually doing it. Ready to join the Mastination? Let's get into it.
Jo (00:31.374)
Today on the show we have the incredible Toni, founder of the viral Riding for Rookies classes where she shows class participants how to ride that duke. Toni has been teaching sexy women's fitness classes for more than two decades and has expanded to riding classes for women and couples in the past three years. Classes have even expanded as far as South Africa. The classes are fun, you bring a pillow and knee pads and you learn some new moves and have a fun time out.
Either alone or with friends, she's actually coming to Sydney early next year. So welcome to the podcast, Tony. We're so excited to have you on today. How are you? I am doing great. How are you guys? So good. So pumped. actually, it's been a while since we've done a podcast and we were so excited to get you on. It's a great way to start back. So Tony, tell us how you got into this. This is obviously quite a niche.
specialty, but one that people love and need to more of. What was your background? All right. So I have been teaching sexy ladies fitness classes for over 20 years. So it was kind of easy to kind of just segue in. And I will let you know that when I started the sexy riding classes, it wasn't with the intent to make money. It just kind of happened based off of a conversation.
Like it wasn't like I sat home and I brainstormed and I said, Hey, how can I do this? It was a conversation between my best friend and I. The conversation got leaked onto the social media and stuff like that. And when, and when people saw it, they said, Tony, you got to do it and you're doing it and we're coming. And that's basically how it started. I didn't sit back and think about it. just kind of like just happened naturally. what's a sexy fitness class? Are you teaching twerking? What are you doing?
We teach twerk classes, we teach sexy pole dance classes, we teach sexy heels dancing classes, we have belly dance classes. So all forms of women's fitness, but with like a little sexy twist. Love it. Love it. Although I don't have the idea of me being in a twerking class, to be honest. You have to do it. I will come and do your writing for rookies for sure. Okay.
Jo (02:53.858)
I like, think Viv knows everybody here knows that my all time favorite is on top. Like love writing. have. So I think I'm doing something right because I feel like in my own way, I'm doing something right. I'm not making it look good like you do, but doing something right because I can't understand how it isn't everybody's favorite. So once they know how to do it right, like that is a life skill that is worth having.
Yeah, but you said something that's really important. And a lot of people are self-conscious when it comes to how they look. Yeah. So a lot of people have reservations about getting on top because of how they look. Yeah. So they might think they look funny just the movements itself. Some people aren't comfortable with their weight. So they feel like they don't look appealing. And you know, when you're there, like,
Spotlights on you, you know, everybody's looking at you one person, maybe two, I don't know, whatever. But, you know, like spotlight is on you and it's showtime. And it's showtime. So a lot of women have apprehensions about that. That's so true. And I've never thought about it like that. So now I'm probably going to be in my head next time. And usually I'm just like loving it, having a great time. Don't care about what anyone else thinks, but probably the
Is being on top, it because people want to feel more confident or is it because they want to know, like are your classes teaching people how to be more confident and own their space or is it more about how they can get more pleasure and like hit different spots and areas? Everything, we cover it all. We cover literally it all. We cover big ones, little ones, curved ones, how to work with all of those. If you have any injuries, ailments, how to work with that, how to look good.
how to position it so it looks good for them, how to make it feel good for you. We cover it all. We literally cover it all. This is a game changer. This is a game changer. It's so good. It's so good. And is this like writing dick tips and like writing for rookies, which is your signature class, is this taking over your twerking and the like belly dancing and like all the other sexy fitness? So yes, but I'm kind of bringing everything back.
Jo (05:18.739)
So when the classes first started, they kind of, moved, I would sell out, but I was selling out locally. And then, so I was still able to run the studio classes and still kind of do my classes. Coincidentally, again, everything happens for a reason. Coincidentally, my lease at the studio where I was renting was up. So then that gave me time to now not have to break my lease, not have to, you know, have any like,
you know, anything crazy going on at the studio and just travel. So then that's what I did. I just started just traveling and teaching the classes all over the world. And then my girls back home were like, Tony, we need you like come back to Baltimore. Come on. So I was like, okay, classes started to kind of not necessarily slow down, but I started using the more leverage with the girls that I have and kind of hiring more staff to kind of like keep the studio operating. So then I reopened
It's called Fantasy Fitness, the studio I own in Baltimore in April of this year. So since then I'm there at the studio Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then all the other girls run the classes on Thursday. I mean, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday while I'm kind of out on the road traveling. Incredible. What a schedule. Okay, well let's get into it then. We want to hear like maybe your top three tips for on top.
I'm so excited to get into this, given that we're talking about confidence and we're talking about more pleasure. So like, would you say that there are a top three or? So here's the thing. No, the thing is this. We can talk about it, but I feel like there are other things that are kind of more important than the tips, only because in tips you need to see the movements and it's kind of hard to do that. So when she says something about, and it really stuck with me about being on top, I think that
First thing is knowing how to work with what you got. So the angles. So having the best angles for either your body type, his body type, or just in general. So one thing that I like to talk about is again, kind of being prepared for the ride, right? Being prepared and having on the right apparel. Cause sometimes there are ways to, some girls don't like to show their stomachs and stuff like that.
Jo (07:45.066)
like little outfits and just having sexy clothes to wear while you're up there to make you feel better. So I think that's tip number one, because you got to get them there. You have to actually get someone on top that does not want to. So that's the first thing that people don't always consider is how can I make somebody get comfortable with getting on top when they don't want to? never have, they're women that have never ever in life, wrote a man, ever.
So how can I get them from zero to a hundred in an hour? You know what I mean? How can I do that in an hour? They gotta feel good. They have to feel like they want to do it. And they say, if you feel good or if you look good, you feel good. So I always encourage lingerie. I encourage finding music, music that helps you move, music that makes you feel sexy as number one, trying to actually get you to get up there and show up.
And I was just talking to a friend of mine who I used to date like year, like early age, like when I first started like humping and he was like, Tony, you're so weird. You always want to hump with the lights on in the shower. And I was like 20, you know what I mean? Like very young at this time. And I realized that it's always been about the theatrics for me, the show, like I want to be the show.
and making people feel comfortable about putting on a show. It's a fucking show, you know what I mean? Like, and it's time to show out. So I think that's number one is trying to figure out how to get you from point A to point B without you feeling or thinking, being in your head too much, overthinking, am I doing this right? Does he like it? get that, feel good first. That's fucking one. Number one, feel good first. I love that.
So we took, know, and you could even have you like a one piece on little crotch list number or something. There's so many options. Yes. Do you guys sell those things? I know you do have laundry. I sell lingerie. We don't do lingerie, but there's no shortage of lingerie on the internet. No, we don't need to go to, we've got enough stock issues with toys that are one size, different sizes. But yeah, there's so many different options out there. Okay. Yeah. This is wild.
Jo (10:07.806)
It's kind of news to me and it's such good, it's such good advice. I feel like it's so good. Like the pleasure side of it is so good when you're on top that I haven't given a shit about any of the rest. It's like, I'll just try some jujitsu moves to like turn them over and get me on top. it's never. Jo, do you typically like to start on top or do you like to kind of segue your way over there? Like later?
It really doesn't bother me. just always, if it starts a different way, it always turns out. yeah, I've got my jujitsu moves up my sleeve so can. Well, that's another tip for me is for women that, and that sounds, that sounds right for you because I do the same fucking thing, whatever. But a lot of women are not comfortable with either, again, going from point A to point B, definitely not ready to start on top. Yeah. So.
Tip number two would be, don't get up there until you are turned on. I feel like once you get stimulated or turned on enough, then that in itself is enough to make you want to, or encourage you more to get up there. So don't make it like a chore. You know, like, okay, I'm gonna get on top today. It's Tuesday at five o'clock. I'm gonna ride them to the wheels, come off. Like, let it kind of happen. Like get into the groove.
And when you're feeling good, you show off, you know? And I tell people, and like, if you're having a bad day and you have to go home and cook, you just might go home and make some fucking, I don't know, throw some chicken nuggets in the oven, you know? But if you had a great day, you might go home and make your best pot roast and go to the store and get some extra seasonings. You know, when you feel good, you do.
You put on a better show, you know, it's Thanksgiving, you have family over, you know, you can't fuck up Thanksgiving. Do y'all have Thanksgiving over there? No, but I wish we did. Yeah, we understand. Okay, but you know what Thanksgiving right? So, you know, a big holiday is coming and you can prepare and when you know that it's showtime, it's like, okay, boom, I'm gonna put on the show, you know, because...
Jo (12:25.344)
you're ready and you're feeling good. But if you're going through holiday time and you're depressed, just anything again, it's just transferable and you're not feeling good. When that time comes around, you probably won't do your best work. So I say, don't get on top right away for my new girl. This is, you know, people that aren't, aren't experienced. You know, get into the groove and when you're ready, when your body is ready to receive whatever, you know, it's time.
then you put on your show. So that's definitely top tip, number two. That's my favorite. I love that. like for me, so for me personally, I'm like, on top. it's not the, like, I don't find it the most pleasurable. I don't mind being on top. Sometimes I'm like, he's done enough work, you know, give him a break. I don't, like for me, it's not the most like pleasurable position. So I'm really curious to know what can make it more.
Pleasurable because for me, it's not a big like hitter of my g-spot and things like that I mean like I can grind on my clit a little bit But like I think maybe it's like the shape of my body that's not quite right or maybe it's just that I'm not doing it correctly And that's where the anatomy comes into it. That's why I we can have conversations But it's like if it's curved you have to be this way if it's curved this way It's better for you to be this way. So again, I can't show you the car, you know what I mean? that's why I'm in theory. We just love a banana dick, honestly. Yeah
You know, in theory, different shapes work better with different positions. There are some women that have, what do they call, uteruses. Are you familiar with that? I am not familiar with that. That is so interesting. The uterus turns this way, so it's very painful. So then they have to actually learn how to shift and work with... I mean, it really gets detailed sometimes, like seriously. And again, that is like more scientific and...
all the science behind it and the body mechanics. And that's what we do like the VIP because some people have like real questions. But if we're just talking about pleasure, just, you know, up on top, like you said, going up and down, grinding, kind of getting that click going, rubbing on them. And that's what women like typically when they're on top, just that click stimulation that comes with being right there on it, right there. Yeah.
Jo (14:43.091)
And I think also if you're not getting that from grinding, like because of the different bodies or something like that, just get your hand down there and do it yourself. women aren't even comfortable doing that. Yeah. Have it, you know, some of them aren't even comfortable with the toys. Like, yeah, slip a toy on there. Yeah. When I met Viv, I was like a shell of a human. I've always had like, gosh, I didn't even, yeah, I didn't even have any photos of myself. Like I remember like friends and stuff.
trying to get a photo of me and my kids because it was just, I just didn't have any, cause I just wouldn't. And I would be that person, but then I would be in bed with a guy and like lights on, on top. Like, yeah, it was wild. It's just, I obviously feel at home there.
Jo (15:35.595)
And is there one mistake that stands out that women are making? Is there like one main mistake they're making when they're on top or do you find that you need to kind of, no, don't do that? One thing, like kind of just what we just talked about, again, mistake number one is making it a chore and kind of just.
getting there and just say, I'm gonna do this and, you know, kind of thinking too much about it instead of like letting your body lead you there. Again, that's always, I said, number one for me. And just overthinking, just fucking just, you know, don't think too much. You know what I mean? Cause I don't know why we do that as women just in general, we just over fucking think everything. It shouldn't be, again, it shouldn't be a chore. It shouldn't be something that you have to think about all the time. Just kind of just do it.
Don't, you know, just do it and do what feels good and kind of just re, you know, receive the feedback you're getting because I'm sure that usually they like it, you know, unless you're just like doing a little scoop thing. Most men don't like the scoop. They hate the scoop. The scoop is like just a back and forth. Again, I can't really show you cause I'm in the car. It's kind of like a back and forth.
Just like a little back and forth with minimal movement. Yeah, you know, they don't get much pleasure from that. But again, sometimes a lot of women do. So whatever. You know, if that works for you. But yeah, so I think that will probably be my top two. Don't just hop up there. Not, you know, turned on. I feel like being turned on is so important. Again, unless you're just like, you know, this is my shit. I do this. But for the inexperienced.
Let your body lead you and don't do the school. you find it's like anything like the more you do it, the better you're going to get the more enjoyment you just like push through those first few times and then you're like, yeah, yes, definitely. That's and that's confidence. Yeah. You do. If you do something enough times you're good at it. You can do it in your sleep. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you do things and that's just anything in general. And that's another thing that we talk about is confidence and building confidence comes with.
Jo (17:44.971)
practice and you might not be able to practice on every man you know they might put you in a weird place but you know that's what we have our pillows and I say practice on a girlfriend I'm lucky and I have girlfriends that just do whatever I tell them to do like if I'm my girl come over here let me hump on you for a few minutes
know, my friends know me like that. That's how we do our thing. But, so yeah, just practice on some friends. Well, I think, I think even partners, think. Get out there and practice on your friends. Next time I see you, Vince. Come on out there. Let me try that. Let's see that move Tony did. Let me make sure we had it right.
Oh my gosh. Now I've just got images in my head of me humping my friends. So a lot of people will be listening to this going, wait, so I'm not supposed to be doing the scoot? You you mentioned like a lot of people are just doing that. Does that mean we have to know how to twerk? Are we going up and down? Are we like grinding? Are we doing random movements? What are we doing? You're doing all the things, but again, it depends on the shape, the size.
And that could be the shape of him, like his body, you know, cause we talk about if you're tall, if you're wide. When I say we cover everything, everything, it's not just, and that's why I'm saying it's not just, I'm just, you know, going to go take this class. Like they really can get some good information. They can take it as serious as they want or as unserious. But we go over literally shapes, sizes, curves, age.
Age has a factor in certain things, especially for women. know, your hips start hurting, your knees start hurting, your body isn't as flexible. How can you stretch your leg out? What are some different alternatives? I got y'all. We got it. What about if I'm talking about someone who's just larger than myself, just larger than myself, average size, let's say straight for consistency sake, what am I doing on You're talking about the right guy, up and down. You can work a lot of moves with him.
Jo (19:45.746)
So that's what we want. You know, that's the proto. That's what we want. We want that to be. We can spin on that because one thing that we talk about in class is how to go from face in the front to face in the back, you know, reversing. But one thing that we talk about is not doing that when you have a curve. because if you have a curve and again, you're trying to twist, it's going to twist like this and that's not going to be comfortable for him or for you.
So if you have up and down, straight up and down, we can do a lot with him. I'm doing three sixties on that. We're doing three sixties. doing three sixties. Okay. I'm wondering who Viv's got booked into her calendar this week to be like, she's asking very questions. Spinning around. Spinning around. like me, what do I do? Viv's always got something booked into her calendar. Selfish. Yeah. There must be a straight one booked in there this week. That's the ideal candidate because you can kind of work.
all types of tips and tricks on that when that's what a person. But then if you have a curve, there are certain things you could do that feel good for them and feel good for you too. I mean, it's limitless. Okay, give me three moves I'm gonna do on my straight average penis with a guy just bigger than me. All right, so three moves that we do. So in class, we cover 10. We cover 10 different moves. The first one is we call it the lower case O. And again,
In theory, can't, all you do is kind of just move in a circle around, right? Around in a circle. Then we have the cursive O. The cursive O is the same like circular motion, but you're gonna do that motion vertically. Okay, so the first like lowercase O is more horizontal. The second one is cursive. And then we have the mini jelly donut.
Everything is my favorite depending on what kind of mood I'm in, right? But the mini jelly donut is, you know, do y'all have 7-Eleven there? Do y'all know what 7-Eleven is? Okay, okay, good. So you know those like mini donuts or miniature donuts that they sell at the grocery store at 7-Eleven? So you kind of keep your coochie in a small circle like the donut at the tip and then you push it back and then you come back. So we call it the mini jelly donut because you're giving them like a very mini donut at the top.
Jo (22:09.833)
And then the inside of your coochie got the jelly, right? You need jelly doughnut? Oh, okay, you need to explain a jelly doughnut to us. is it got jam on the inside or something? You haven't had a jelly doughnut? Like jam doughnut? A jam doughnut? Yeah. With jam and cream or like with jam in the middle? Just jam. Yeah, like jam in the middle. Okay, right, right, right. Like one of the solid balls. Yeah. Okay. Oh, right. No, I did not know that Viv. Yeah, so that's a good one. So you could do those three.
pretty simple. They don't require a lot of skill. note Viv, it was lower case O, okay? Don't... Lower case O. like, never learned to write cursive either, so I'm gonna have to look that one up. And then I've got jelly donuts, I'm gonna have to Google. I can just imagine Viv as she's taking notes and not like specifying that it's a lowercase and she's on him like just doing this giant big... going uppercase.
Keep your O small. do, again, we have a booklet and in the booklet, because for people that are international that cannot make a class, we have the names of all the moves and then descriptions because again, it's so hard to explain in theory, you know what I mean? Without actually doing it. That's why the class is so successful because you get the moves, you get the names and you actually can practice doing them. With your classes, if you don't have a partner, do girls just come with their friends or?
Yeah, they come, bring a pillow. you bring a pillow. So it's just you and your pillow. Correct. And so we just recently started the couples classes, maybe about a year and a half, two years ago, because after, you know, we started bringing it, I mean, after people started seeing it on social media, and it started going crazy and viral, everyone's like, you can't just learn like that. Again, you can't learn on a pillow, you need a real person. So I was like, fuck
Let's try it with a real person. And those classes had been going crazy as well. Looks like we're advertising for partners in January Viv in Sydney. Okay. is the singles class though. is it the singles class? Yeah, the writing for rookies is just with your pillow. Okay. Yeah. what about, what can your partner be doing to enhance your experience when you're on top? Is there anything they can do or they just line back and join the show?
Jo (24:32.904)
It depends. Sometimes you might just want them to listen. Sometimes I just say, let me do my thing. Sometimes you want a little bit of bounce back, a little bit of feedback. And then when I say bounce back, literally a little bit of bounce back. Sometimes you want them to put you in different, help you stay in different positions, depending on what the position is, hold your leg in a certain place so that you have more leverage, you know, so it could be different things like that. Yeah. And I think
It's always good to hear a little bit of noise as well. you know, moan if it's good. You know what I mean? Like don't just lay there. Don't just lay there silent. No, pillow prints out. We like to make noises and talk and all that kind of stuff. Nothing more awkward than somebody that just doesn't make any noises. I love the posties here. In the booklet that we have, I have a full page of dirty talk phrases. Like nasty stuff to say.
in his ear to get it over quick. Nice. Yeah, a full, a whole page of just stuff to say because one, sometimes women don't know what to say. So I'm telling you, we really cover everything y'all. Like this is a thing. See you in Sydney. This is a masterclass. This is a masterclass. Yes. And for you to like bring that into an hour, I'm impressed.
It runs a little bit over an hour, honestly, but within like an hour, you know, because we do again, there's a lot of conversation. I tell the full story about how the class started. And, know, I have time for them to ask questions. If people have questions, we can do questions. If they need to see something again, we can. Again, sometimes the girls purchase the books.
prior to the class, so they're literally jotting notes down as class is going. Hold on, Tony, let me break that down again. What do I Google? You know, that sort of thing. So again, it kind of, I try to keep it at an hour, but we usually go about an hour to 15 to hour, 20 minutes, depending on how many women we have.
Jo (26:38.664)
Incredible. We got three girls signed up for Sydney already. Three girls. right. Well, Jo and I will be there as well. So make that five. And just to reiterate for those listening, so you're going to be in Sydney on the 1st of February, is that right? 2025? think so. We think so. We leave LA on the 31st. So the class is either February the 1st, 2nd or 3rd. I don't remember because I don't, but it's that weekend. So it's either that.
Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Perfect. Okay. We'll put that in the link in the show notes anyway. Yeah. The first is the Saturday. So if that sounds about right, then okay. love that. That's the first week back at school as well. And I'm just going to like ditch the kids and be like, mommy, you're going a de-writing class. We're to going to a slumber party. Yes.
Can't wait. Awesome. And if people want to follow you and find out more about your classes and watch your content online, what are your Instagram accounts? So you're going to follow me on Instagram and it's fantasyfitnessmd. Fantasy, fitness, M as in Mary, D as in Delta, and that's all together. Amazing. Perfect. Well, we'll talk again soon. We might do a little bit of a live before the class and then we'll see you at the class too.
Very exciting and if anyone has any questions we'll link your Instagram accounts in the notes and they can get in touch and otherwise we'll see you soon. Thanks for listening to another episode of the Girls Get Off podcast. If you want to hear more from us you can check us out on Instagram at Girls Get Off, our Facebook group Girls Get Off Uncensored or for any of our products GirlsGetOff.com and our personal Instagrams are linked in the show notes.